Would Bob Marshall Have Sued Himself ?
You know I've heard a lot of talk about Del. Bob Marshall being the only US Senate candidate that stopped HB 3202 from becoming law, and that is why we should support him. You know that bill that would allow unelected bodies to have taxing authority over our Commonwealth's Citizens. The theory being, only Marshall could be trusted to stop new taxes in their tracks!
Well, let us confirm that is Governor Jim Gilmore who used the power of the veto to stop Del. Bob Marshall from creating one of those unelected bodies and give them the authority to tax our citzenry. It seems:
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Summary as passed: (all summaries)
Virginia Regional Economic Development Authority. Allows two or more localities to create such an authority for the purpose of enhancing the economic base for the member localities by developing, owning, and operating on a cooperative basis one or more development areas for commercial enterprises. An authority shall be a political subdivision of the Commonwealth and its powers shall include the power to sue and be sued in its own name; adopt bylaws, rules and regulations; enter into agreements with any other political subdivision of the Commonwealth for joint or cooperative action; enter into voluntary economic growth-sharing agreements; determine the locations of, develop, establish, construct, operate, regulate, and maintain facilities to the extent necessary or convenient to accomplish the purposes of the authority; acquire, own, hold, lease, use, sell, encumber, transfer, or dispose of, in its own name, any real or personal property or interests therein; enter into contracts of any kind; expend such funds as may be available to it for the purpose of developing facilities; fix and revise from time to time and charge and collect rates, rents, fees, or other charges for the use of facilities or for services rendered in connection with the facilities; borrow money from any source for any valid purpose; issue bonds; receive from participating localities contributions of taxes levied within the district; distribute its revenues according to an agreement among participating localities; and, with the concurrence of the member localities, levy an incremental real property tax for capital investment and special services within the district. This is a recommendation of the Commission on the Condition and Future of Virginia's Cities.
Wow, can you believe it? Luckily Governor Jim Gilmore wielded the veto pen, and wrote:
Pursuant to Section 6 of Article V of the Constitution of Virginia, I veto House Bill No. 1474. House Bill No. 1474 allows two or more localities to create a Regional Economic Development Authority to develop, own and operate for those localities, one or more development areas for commercial enterprises.
Establishing a process to make it easier for local governments to work together on projects that are of regional economic benefit are vital in ensuring greater government efficiency and reducing wasteful spending. These steps, however, should not involve a delegation of taxing authority, or the creation of an undefined tax district, which is what House Bill No. 1474 purports to do.
I believe that there is a model of regional cooperation that will allow these efficiencies to provide the regions of the Commonwealth the tools they need to compete nationally for high paying jobs and investments. I have always believed in local economic development through the cooperative efforts of localities, and initiatives like the Regional Competitiveness Act is one example of how effective those efforts can be.
While House Bill No. 1474 takes some important steps in creating the proper economic incentives for collaboration between regions, unfortunately, it also blurs the distinction between regional governments and regional authorities, potentially creating an unelected entity with the critical sovereign powers of government.Therefore, I am returning this bill without my approval.and who voted for it?
(floor) 02/15/00 House: VOTE: PASSAGE (74-Y 25-N)
YEAS--Abbitt, Almand, Amundson, Armstrong, Barlow, Baskerville, Bennett, Bloxom, Bolvin, Brink, Broman, Byron, Callahan, Christian, Clement, Councill, Cranwell, Crittenden, Darner, Day, DeBoer, Deeds, Diamonstein, Dickinson, Dillard, Drake, Grayson, Hall, Hargrove, Hull, Ingram, Jackson, Joannou, Johnson, Jones, D.C., Jones, J.C., Jones, S.C., Keister, Kilgore, Larrabee, Marshall, May, McClure, McDonnell, McEachin, McQuigg, Melvin, Moran, Morgan, Moss, O'Brien, Orrock, Parrish, Phillips, Plum, Pollard, Purkey, Rhodes, Robinson, Ruff, Scott, Sherwood, Shuler, Spruill, Stump, Tata, Tate, Thomas, Van Landingham, Van Yahres, Watts, Weatherholtz, Williams, Woodrum--74.NAYS--Albo, Black, Blevins, Bryant, Cantor, Cox, Davis, Devolites, Dudley, Griffith, Hamilton, Harris, Howell, Katzen, Landes, Louderback, Nixon, Reid, Rollison, Rust, Suit, Wagner, Wardrup, Ware, Mr. Speaker--25.
ABSTENTIONS--0.
Shazam! I just wonder, if this had passed would Del. Marshall have named him self in the law suit when he set out to end these unelected authorities with taxing power? Marshall even voted for it in committee, so much for not knowing what the bill was all about.
Note here, since I am all about Republican Unity, I will spare some of my closest blogging friends links to the numerous, numerous, numerous posts, and comments that have never spared the rod for the Good Governor Gilmore in regards to HB3202, or his 'Big Govt' ways. Feel the Love.
But now we know, Governor Gilmore is the only US Senate Candidate that has saved us from these ghastly, unelected bodies with taxing authority.
SpankThatDonkey
in Politics Virginia General Assembly, Gilmore For Senate, Mark Warner for Senate
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Leave De. Marshall alone! He clearly wasn't himself in 2000!
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?001+ful+HB350
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?001+ful+HB351
You can't hold any of these bills against him. He didn't want to run for statewide office then. He opposes those things now. Isn't that good enough? Consistency is totally over rated.
The Gilmore campaign must be really feeling the sting on the HB 3202 discussion to be feeding you stuff like this. You might want to question them more closely when they try to feed you stuff like this.
This bill simply let two or more localities do what a single locality can do at present, namely set up special taxing or service district (say for the development and payment of sewers for an industrial park), from taxes or fees LEVIED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE GOVERNING BODY. These authorities are more like collection agencies which need the source body to confer the power to collect.
Is Gilmore counting on voters not being able to understand the language of a bill? That might work in a primary, but it's awfully dicey in a convention. Assuming the voters are too dumb to figure this out is pretty risky.
I sense desperation here.
Hardly the case Greg.
If that is the case, why did the General Assembly reverse itself so sharply? Over seventy of them voted to pass it, upon veto, over 70 of them voted to uphold the veto? i.e. it would seem that Gov. Gilmore brought Marshall 'To Jesus' on the issue... Marshall voted to sustain the veto...
Try again my friend... who's sending you out to make the response, because he doesn't want too?
Greg L., I think that you're just understandably irked that this gun-grabbing, tax-hiking moderate pulled the wool over your eyes by pretending to be a conservative the last few months.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.guns/browse_thread/thread/9da4bb7bcdec79c1/513821c93b845d00?lnk=st&q=#513821c93b845d00
I just hope that we get a true conservative to run against Del. Bob in his legislative district after this fiasco is over with.
I agree with "Leave Marshall Alone!" It is becoming clear that Bob Marshall voted for regional taxation authorities when it was convenient, tried cramming some of the most restrictive gun control bills the commonwealth has ever seen down our throats, and is beholden to Al Gore and the Sierra Club.
It may go against the so-called conventional wisdom, but Bob Marshall is uniquely vulnerable to a primary challenge from the right in 2009. I for one am glad he indulged in this vanity run for the Senate so his record could come to light.
Nightwatchman:
I personally heard Bob Marshall say that he didn't know enough about ANWR? We shouldn't risk developing oil reserves so far away from home because of the risk of terrorist attack?
Alaska is in the USA! Bob is beholden to Al Gore, he'd be no better than Mark Warner in the Senate when it comes to expanding us oil reserve supplies!
Nominating him would just give away the issue.
This Bob Marshall you guys are talking about, could it be the same one that told me during a phone call that finishing US58 is just a public works project? The same one who, during that same phone conversation, dismissed ANWAR as an unrealistic source of oil?
That's the one Alton... He told you ANWR was unrealistic? Heck he didn't even know it was in Alaska when he came to the Waynesboro Mass Meeting!
I wonder if he thought the original Alaska Pipeline would destroy the environment? It happens to be located, as you know right next door to ANWR, ready to be loaded up and increase our domestic supply.
So how long do you think it would it be before the oil reaches you, Spanky?
For the record, please notice that Delegate Paul Harris did not vote for this ridiculous bill.
Spank That Donkey,
How do you get that Bob Marshall is connected to Al Gore? The Sierra Club might be liberal leaning, but the club stands to preserve the environment. Marshall was endorsed by the Virginia chapter of The Sierra Club for his strong environmental record. This was in NO connection of Al Gore (who deserves a carbon footprint where the sun doesn't shine).
C3:
Now, Al Gore is against drilling in ANWR, and Bob Marshall is against telling us his true opinion about drilling in the ANWR... not to mention he voted for unelected taxing authorities before Jim Gilmore vetoed them!
OK fair enough, Bob Marshall is beholden to Al Gore's opinion that we shouldn't drill in ANWR
The Sierra Club takes food from my table CCC. I take that seriously, as do the thousands of miners in SWVA. Through in Bob's foolish gun control legislation with the Sierra Club connection and he loses me and most of SWVA.
Kilo,
I am not advocating for or on behalf of Sierra Club. In fact, I believe they advocate for some extreme policies at times, like windmill energy in small Midwestern towns that could rely on electricity.
As for ANWR, I believe that we need to drill there ASAP to avert disaster before people have to walk everywhere or have to go into bankruptcy to drive to and from work. We need to drop our reliance on foreign oil.
Bob Marshall talks about coal energy, which could potentially offer relief in the winter with the rising prices of heating fuel. However, back to the premise of this article, where was Jim Gilmore in the HB 3202 battle? Marshall changed his mind HB 1474 after the veto.
C3:
You mean Gov. Jim Gilmore led Bob Marshall to the right path of opposing unelected entities with the ability to levy taxes.
Marshall voted for it twice, then switched after the veto.
If you are for drilling in ANWR you need to be for Gilmore period. Marshall is waffling and for a reason, he is not for it!