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Open Carry Group Makes It's Point
I got this email the Virginia Civilian Defense League, and it speaks volumes as to why anti-gunners are not in charge in VA or the USA. Check it out:
Finally, the wait is over! Here is the article that was written by a
reporter who came to the various luncheons and a dinner in the Fairfax
area that were attended by VCDL members.
Over 100 gun owners participated in the meals, which happened every
weekend in April.
EM Dave Vann came up with the idea of having a reporter cover the
meals in order to document that Senator "Banjo" Saslaw was out of
touch with reality when he made condescending remarks on the Senate
Floor earlier this year about gun owners being kicked out of any
restaurant in NoVA where they might try to eat while open carrying.
There were a lot of pictures taken at the events that will be on the
Internet soon. We also had a video made by member Matt Gottshalk of
McGee Digital Media that we will post as soon as it is available.
Since the last meal was a dinner with almost 100 reservations and was
being held in his district, we had asked Senator Cuccinelli if he
wanted to attend and speak to the group. Unfortunately, he was
speaking at the Virginia Conservative Leadership Conference that same
night , so he had ex-Delegate Dick Black, a strong supporter of our
right to keep and bear arms, speak in his stead.
Senator Saslaw couldn't resist showing his elitism, yet again, as he
takes another swipe at gun owners. Saslaw even manages to insult
police officers when he says:
“What normal person walks around with a gun on your hip? Something’s
wrong in your life if you feel compelled to carry a gun as part of
your daily routine"
The News Advance changed the headline of the story and the featured
picture. The AP's headline was "Guns in Restaurants, like Peanut
Butter and Jelly" and the AP photo was of VCDL members in a restaurant.
Here is the article:
http://tinyurl.com/536htc
Guns in restaurants draw stares but little outcry
By MATTHEW BARAKAT
Associated Press Writer
Published: May 9, 2008
RESTON, Va. (AP) — The patrons at Champps, an upscale restaurant and
bar chain, were eating ribs and drinking beer on a recent Saturday
when customer Bruce Jackson stood up and made an announcement: He was
armed, and so were dozens of other patrons.
The armed customers stood up in unison, showing off holstered pistols
and revolvers. Jackson said a word or two about the rights of gun
owners to carry firearms in Virginia, then thanked everyone for their
attention and sat down.
And the diners returned to their burgers and Budweisers.
The Virginia Citizens Defense League organized the dinner at Champps
to prove a point: that the presence of armed customers in northern
Virginia restaurants would elicit little more than shrugs.
The dinner — and several other restaurant visits throughout northern
Virginia last month — were a response to comments from the majority
leader in the state Senate, Democrat Richard Saslaw, who said during a
legislative debate that armed patrons would be unwelcome in northern
Virginia restaurants.
“In most urban areas, you walk into a restaurant with a gun on your
hip, they’re going to tell you to get out,” Saslaw said.
In fact, with a few exceptions, the gun owners got their meals. The
group went to eight different restarants in April — at two of them,
they were asked to leave. More often than not, though, their presence
failed to generate a stir.
All the restaurants were in Fairfax County, a bastion of suburbia and
soccer moms outside Washington that is the wealthiest county in
America, according to the most recent Census data. It is also a place
where nerves over the gun debate are still somewhat raw a year after
the shootings at Virginia Tech, where 32 people were slain, including
many from northern Virginia.
The restaurants included numerous family establishments including the
Fuddruckers burger chain and the McLean Family Restaurant.
“We wanted to prove not only that (Saslaw) was wrong, but we wanted to
make the point that we have the right to self defense. That’s a God-
given right,” said Dave Vann, a retired D.C. police officer and VCDL
member who organized the restaurant visits.
In Virginia, gun owners are allowed to carry firearms in bars and
restaurants that serve alcohol, as long as the restaurant permits it
and they carry their weapon openly. Legislation to allow concealed
weapons in restaurants serving alcohol passed the General Assembly
this year, but was vetoed by Gov. Timothy M. Kaine.
While Virginia is generally considered friendly to gun owners, it is
only one of two states along with Montana, that requires people to
openly carry arms in restaurants that serve alcohol, according to the
Web site opencarry.org, which promotes and monitors gun owners’
rights. Eleven states ban guns altogether in restaurants that serve
alcohol, while the rest make no distinction between open and concealed
carry.
At Champps, several patrons failed to notice that so many customers
were armed, even though dozens of gun-toting men and women had walked
right past them.
Tomas Nolasco of Reston said he hadn’t noticed the guns and didn’t
care as long as they weren’t drinking. (They weren’t.) His wife was a
little more concerned.
“There are families in here, children in here,” Cathy Nolasco said.
“It bothers me.”
Brendan Fitzgerald of Reston and his friends noticed the guns
immediately. They were curious but unconcerned.
“I’m just laughing because it’s totally unnecessary in my opinion,”
Fitzgerald said, pointing to one individual who not only was armed but
also had several clips of ammunition attached to his belt.
“This is Reston, not Southeast,” said his friend Nathan Dicken,
contrasting the northern Virginia suburb to a section of the District
of Columbia that has been known for gun violence.
The gun owners say those patrons’ comments miss the point. Vann said
the gun owners’ presence make the restaurant more safe, not less.
Champps’ manager — Carey Vereen, a gun-rights supporter — agreed.
“This is an area with a large population of government agents — FBI,
CIA, local,” Vereen said. “In terms of people seeing open carry, it’s
not a shock to our customers.”
Indeed, many of the men who carry weapons say people frequently just
assume they’re police or retired police.
For women who carry, it’s a different story. At one restaurant —
Mike’s American Grill — the group had gone essentially unnoticed until
a woman in her 20s with a satin-finished, stainless-steel revolver got
up from her table.
The restaurant’s manager spotted her and asked the group to either put
the guns in their cars or leave. They left.
“When I saw the gun on her hip, I was like, ‘What is going on here?”‘
said the manager, Gabba Kaye, who hadn’t noticed the guns when the
group of 20 checked in for their lunch reservation.
Kaye said he hadn’t received complaints from customers, but that the
weapons made him uncomfortable. He also said he had been warned by the
restaurant’s ownership after word got out that VCDL planned a series
of restaurant visits. He was specifically instructed not to allow them
service while carrying.
The woman who caught the manager’s attention said the gun always
attracts notice.
“Every time I go out, I notice people’s eyes going right here,” said
the woman, pointing to her hip. She de-clined to give her full name
out of privacy concerns. “It’s interesting because it’s not a reaction
of fear. It’s more a reaction of ‘You can’t do that. You can’t carry a
gun.’ ... It’s like disdain.”
She said she only recently began carrying a gun after a string of
sexual assaults in her Alexandria neighborhood.
The second restaurant that turned the group away was Kilroy’s in
Springfield — a restaurant where Saslaw was popular enough to once
have a sandwich named after him. The owner also said he had been aware
of earlier news reports that the VCDL was planning a series of armed
lunches.
“We’d just prefer they not come to the restaurant,” said the owner,
Phillip “Pip” Thomas. “I’m sure it would offend some customers.”
Saslaw said he’s not necessarily surprised that VCDL found restaurants
in the region that would allow them to dine while armed. But he said
that carrying guns is simply not normal behavior in this area.
“What normal person walks around with a gun on your hip? Something’s
wrong in your life if you feel compelled to carry a gun as part of
your daily routine," he said.
The gun owners bristle at that stereotype. Nearly 100 people attended
the various lunches and dinners, including many retired military
personnel. Others were white-collar professionals. While most were
white men, the group included blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women.
“This isn’t a bunch of drunk rednecks sidling up to a saloon,” said
Christopher Wu, 28, of Alexandria, carrying a Springfield XD45 pistol.
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VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
(VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.
VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
SWAC Blogger Honored by CCRKBA
Phil Lynch, aka Yankee Phil, a SWAC Blogger has been honored by the CCRKBA as Defender of the Month for his cutting edge letters to the editor campaign here in the Shenandoah Valley. The Staunton News Leader was undoubtedy cringing in pain publishing Yankee Phil's editorial submission in this awesome defense of the Second Amendment. Check it out:
"The Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights does not use the word "People" until sixteenth word. Some pundits and polemicists take that to mean that the founding fathers did not actually mean that the people had the right to keep and bear arms. I assume that these same pundits never read the actual Constitution beyond the Preamble and the first two Amendments. It might be helpful for these individuals to get hold of a copy of the Federalist papers. Or listen to Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, or William Henry Lee.
The Federalist papers are a group of 85 letters authored by James Madison, John Jay, and Alexander Hamilton. James Madison was the fourth President of The United States. John Jay was the first U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice. Alexander Hamilton was the first Secretary of the Treasury. In six of these letters, they wrote about their ideas of standing armies and militias. The present National Guard was not what they had in mind. In Federalist # 46, Madison wrote "the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation. . . (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
Thomas Jefferson stated "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." In his America, "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." He stated that when he was proposing the Constitution of the state of Virginia.
Samuel Adams is now known as a brewer of beer. He stated that "The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms." Since the word people is not mentioned until the thirty-first word of the First Amendment, did he mean that only the government would have freedom of the Press?
William Henry Lee is a Virginian. He stated in briefly what the Second Amendment meant to the founding fathers. His words are "A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves . . . and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms... The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle."The Second Amendment was not written for hunters, or target shooters. It was written for responsible people to protect their country, their community, their family, and themselves. It was written so free people can remain free. Everyone knows Patrick Henry’s famous line, "Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?...I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" What is less known, and maybe more importantly, he stated, "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel." Be careful of those that promise safety at the expense of your freedom."
Maybe they went after Delegate Ben Cline in such haste, because of Phil's great defense of an individual's right to Keep and Bear Arms? The Staunton News Leader is so 'out of step' with its area, it's pathetic.
Is the Staunton News Leader Desperate for Readers?
The Staunton New Leader sent out their Cartoonist Jim McCloskey today to attack Del. Ben Cline Sunday with this editorial cartoon. Ostensibly Delegate Ben Cline voted against the so called 'Gun Show Loophole', because he got $250 contribution last year from the National Rifle Association. See VPAP, page 4 on contributers list.
Delegate Cline boasts an A+ rating from the NRA, and it is obvious that he is voting on the principle that private citizens have the right to purchase firearms privately from one another without government interference. That cuts to the heart of the gun debate in the USA over registration of guns in general. My understanding of the law is that all transactions of gun purchases from a Federal Firearms Dealer (FFL License dealers/holders) are to be held only for three years then may be discarded by the FFL holder.
The instant background check one goes through to purchase from a FFL dealer is a thorough check that involves FBI and State criminal records background checks of the individual gun purchaser. I do not have a problem with these checks, as I do not have a problem with background checks for anyone applying for a concealed hand gun permit. Criminals rarely subject themselves to scrutiny by law enforcement. My understanding is that more extensive mental health records will also be included in the back ground checks for a 'legal' firearms purchase by individuals. This will help weed out miscreants such as Mr Cho.
Governor Tim Kaine is only 'Grand Standing' on the gun issue by trying to force through the General Assembly a bill to make illegal the practice of a private citizen who has for gun for sale and takes it to a gun show in hopes of finding a willing buyer or trade for his firearm.
Think about this now. A gun show. Have you ever been to a gun show at the Show Place promoted by ShowMasters, or C & E Gunshows at the old State Fairgrounds and/or Mechanicsville, VA? These are great gun shows, and are crawling with ATF, State Police, Richmond and Henrico Police Officers. If you are a criminal, the last thing you want to do is go into a room full of cops and purchase firearms from anyone.
Criminals are idiots, I will grant you that. I have seen plenty of people taken out of there in handcuffs as they have tried to purchase firearms illegally, but these are people who have the mentality you see in the movies where they try to conduct an armed robbery of the local 'watering hole' of your local cops hang out....
But back to my bi-line of "Is the Staunton News Leader Desperate for Readers". Everyone in town has seen through this blatant political attack on Del. Cline. The former Editor Dennis Neal has departed the scene, and unfortunately secured employment with the US Navy. He was always faithful with his attacks on our local Delegates Cline, Saxman and Landes. It seems the new Editor in Chief is trying to take up (yawn) his old game.
The real bottom line is that this newspaper serves a community that voted almost 75% for George W. Bush in 2004, and they think they can increase their readership by insulting it's community almost day in and day out with their editorials and other Liberal content. I look forward to the day when they shudder their doors. While campaigning for Scott Sayre it was almost universal that Republican's on our voting lists didn't have a News Leader box in front of their homes....
As the MSM dies out, they only have themselves to blame. It is almost 'Darwinian' that the local MSM refuses to adapt to their own environment to survive. I look forward to the day when the buzzards are eating out what is left of their carcass.
Thank You Delegate Cline for voting Pro-Gun on allowing private gun owners to continue to exchange their firearms privately as we always have....
I have made a couple grammatical changes to this post for spelling and clarity. I have not attempted to alter my premise beyond, readability of the post. I use squarespace as a blog host, and when I publish a post, I inevitably find some things I missed in their format for reviewing the posts I intend to publish....
sincerely, the publisher of said post.
LG Bolling backs Virginians Right to Bear Arms on Campus
(Click for the message) Our LG Bill Bolling went on record today backing the right of someone age 21 or older, who completes a criminal background check, and is vetted out by the State Police and a local judge to be allowed to carry a concealed firearm just about every where else in VA except their own campus, to have that right. If I were the parent of a student who had a concealed weapons permit, but was disarmed by the VT school administration....
This is just flat out common sense. How many criminals try to rob or do injury to other people who they know have the ability to fight back with firearms? This Cho was a coward... a flat out coward, because when he knew the police were bearing down on him, he put the gun to his head and blew his cowardly brains out vs. facing others who he knew were armed and prepared to fight him...
These big cities that back stringent gun laws like New York City & Washington DC are only protecting the interests of the criminals by disarming law abiding citizens... Business owners can be threatened by organized crime, who could give a rip about breaking the law in the first place. Two-bit thugs who would break into an elderly persons home to rob, rape, or murder.... Like a gun violation pales to the penalties to the aforementioned crimes? The criminals are given Carte Blanche to prey upon the law abiding....
That is why I judge every politician first and foremost on the Second Amendment... If they don't trust law abiding citizens with guns, I don't trust them with power!
Nugent on Gun Rights
The Motor City Mad Man argues for the Second Amendment and the right to personal defense.
Caution this may hurt the sensibilities of certain folks with 'Nanny State Syndrome'.



